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Les Paul Long neck Tenons, what are they and what does it mean?

By  Bob Glastetter | Published  12/27/2006 | Guitars
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Les Paul Long neck Tenons, what are they and what does it mean?

? There has been a lot of talk lately about “Long neck Tenons” and differences between guitars that have this construction method and those that don’t.? Primarily these are Les Pauls or Les Paul copies. So I’ll try to show an example of what this is and how it works. See pic below at end of article!

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? First a history lesson. Back in the glory years of Gibson, circa 1950’s to 1960 the construction method used to join the guitar neck to the body had a long tenon on it. Basically what that means is that the neck went all the way into and under the neck pickup cavity. The neck was longer than the fretboard. The “Bursts” and early Goldtops used this design and many players/collectors are convinced that this method adds sustain and clarity to the guitar by making it more stable and enhancing resonance. So let’s fast forward. Until the recent Historic lines came out and now the V.O.S. series Gibson has never made the Les Paul the same way as they did in the “Glory years”. When they left for Nashville the?Kalamazoo production was stopped?and Gibson?changed the neck join method. Now the neck falls short of the front pickup and the fretboard extends onto the body. There is a smaller amount of mass actually holding the neck to the body.

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? What’s the advantage of this type method? ?Well I’ve had the chance to own and play guitars of different neck joint methods and I really believe that the Long Neck Tenons are superior. The guitars are more resonant with better sustain and more clarity, less “muddy” sounding than the normal Les Paul line and have a better overall tonal balance. It is something you notice more as a player, I don’t think any one in the audience will know, they’ll just know your guitar sounds good. I can really tell the difference when comparing 2 guitars together, one with and one without the tenon. I think the added price is worth it for the improved tonal benefits.

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??There are some more affordable Les Paul copies that feature this method. Tokai, Greco, Edwards, and the Epiphone Elitist series. These are Made in? Japan copies and can be harder to find but they are much more affordable than the new Gibsons if your wallet can’t handle the expense. I have included a pic of the tenon from a Epi Elitist Les Paul. I would add that these MIJ guitars are very close to the real Gibson Long Neck Tenon but not exactly as long or deep as Gibson uses.

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  • Comment #1 (Posted by ddos411)
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    yea! no doubt!!
     
  • Comment #2 (Posted by Chris)
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    Very clear explaination of the tenon, it's history and how it affects the tone, sustain...
    Thanks....
     
  • Comment #3 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    the epi has a medium tenon, all of my aria pro2s have the long tenon (almost fills the pocket).
     
  • Comment #4 (Posted by Dr. Serizawa)
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    Great explanation. But, that Epi neck tenon.. that does NOT look like a good fit at all! Visible gaps and a lot of glue holding that thing together, and not a lot of wood-to-wood contact. Compared to some of the Orville (Gibson's original Japanese venture), Edwards (ESP's awesome consumer-grade guitars), and other MIJ LP-style guitars I've seen on eBay, the Elitist doesn't seem too Elite.
     
  • Comment #5 (Posted by peerless)
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    In your post you said that "the golden era" ended and Gibson left Kalamazoo and stopped using the long tenon production method. By golden era you mean between 1959-1960. However Gibson was at the Kalamazoo factory until the early eighties. What you should have said was that by 1960 sales of the Les Paul line were so low that Gibson dropped the guitar from its lineup. The Les Paul model was reinstated during the mid 60's after rising popularity attributed to the British Blues scene. In the mid 60's when Gibson started making the guitar again, they had moved away from the long tenon style of production. Gibson was making guitars at Kalamazoo MI at this time.

    Most players who have actually played early Les Pauls will tell you that the most distinguishable difference is the weight. An early LP weighs in at a modest 7-8 pounds. Les Pauls of today (even the ones that cost 5G's) are 9-12 pounds. Lighter wood being more resonant, I think one can easily see why the "golden era" instruments sounded better. Gibson actually has to drill "weight reliefs holes" to keep the guitar at 10 pounds.

     
  • Comment #6 (Posted by Diceman)
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    Great explanation. I play an Epiphone Elitist, and the resonance improvement over the regular Epiphone line, and the Gibson Studio is very apparent.
     
  • Comment #7 (Posted by Dan)
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    Thanks!!!
     
  • Comment #8 (Posted by andy)
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    cool man,, great job..
     
  • Comment #9 (Posted by Yves)
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    Excellent article, facts,
    personal experience,
    unbiased etc.
    Thanks
     
  • Comment #10 (Posted by Spiritfire)
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    Re Peerless' comment on lighter wood and sustain, the heavier and denser the wood, the more sustain you get - see "chasing sound" for the great man Les Paul to explain it himself.
     
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