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Getting Started With DAW Control Surfaces and Faders

By  Brandon Drury | Published  05/15/2007 | Getting Started
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Do I Need A DAW Controller?

Mackie Control Universal Pro
$1199.99
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The Mackie Control Universal Pro is a control surface made to give you tactile control over all the parameters of your computer recording software. Since it employs the proprietary Mackie communication protocol, Mackie Control Pro Series controllers know just how to sweet-talk your software, and your software knows just how to respond. You get deep, intuitive control of mix and plug-in parameters, realtime visual feedback, and setup is plug and play—no MIDI mapping head games!The Universal Pro control surface, Extender Pro control surface extension and C4 Pro plug-in and virtual instrument controller all seamlessly integrate, so you can put control of all your music software parameters right at your fingertips.Simply put, Mackie Control Pro Series controllers give your music production software what it needs to feel complete.
Digidesign Command 8 Control Surface
$1149
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The new Command 8 control surface puts integrated, tactile control of Pro Tools TDM or LE systems running on Windows XP or Mac OS X at your fingertips more affordably than ever before. Through a simple USB connection, Command 8's 8 bankable channels of touch-sensitive motorized faders, rotary encoders, and LCD displays enable you to control your Pro Tools system with a fully featured, intelligent control surface. As with other Digidesign control surfaces, Command 8 gives you channel strip mixing functionality along with the ability to view and edit plug-in parameters and to automate sends, pans, track volume, and mutes. Transport controls (Play, Record, etc.) are also included, complete with a footswitch jack for QuickPunch and TrackPunch in, further increasing your independence from mouse-and-keyboard-only interaction with your sessions.Command 8 also features a 1-IN/2-OUT (16 channels in/32 channels out) MIDI interface for integrating your MIDI-compatible gear into Pro Tools. Its Standalone MIDI controller mode enables you to use the Command 8 with your favorite third-party MIDI applications and devices - any device or application that accepts MIDI control change messages for level, panning, solo, mute, MIDI Machine Control, and other mappable parameters.For keeping an ear or 2 on your mixes, Command 8 includes an onboard monitor system featuring acclaimed Focusrite audio performance and quality. It...
Behringer BCR2000 B-Control Rotary
$129.99
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The Behringer BCR2000 B-Control Rotary is an innovative, hands-on control surface with 32 endless rotary encoders for the ultimate control of virtual mixers, organ-drawbars, synths, and samplers. Control all the virtual gear in Cubase, Cakewalk, Logic Audio, and other major audio software. Tired of using a mouse? Match your "virtual hardware" setup or cascade them together for the ultimate workstation. The BCR2000 is USB compatible and features full MIDI In/Out/Thru capability. 8 of the rotary encoders have a 15-element LED indicator plus a push-to-set function that lets you select, adjust, set, and control a myriad of functions. Assign a dedicated knob, fader, or key to your most frequently used functions and make edits without touching the mouse. Tweak "front-panel" settings by simply turning a knob. It's like having the real knobs for every control on the screen! Best of all, discover just how awesome MIDI can be! Simply connect your B-CONTROL to your computer via USB. Then assign and control MIDI/audio sequencers, software mixers, or virtual synths/plug-ins with real knobs without using your mouse! You'll spend less time clicking around and more time enjoying your music!

I'll start this article off with the bad just to get everybody going.

The Disadvantages of DAW Control Surfaces

So what's the disadvantage of buying a DAW Controller? This is an easy one. THE PRICE!! Dumping 1200 or more smackers on a mouse alternative is a giant resource hog (in this case, the resources are the things you would otherwise blow the money on). If you have nothing else to buy, then this is a non-issue. However, there are a handful of things that are giant priorities. Frankly, I don't consider DAW control surfaces to be giant priorities when it comes to making great recording.

Check out my article: How To Achieve Pro Recording Quality

You will notice that the article makes mention of the song, the musician, producer, engineer, room acoustics, recording gear etc. It does not make any mention of having a human feel on the mixing console. Nor does it mention having a comfortable chair to mix in or an air conditioner.

In other words, I see use of real faders on a mix as a luxury. While there are some advantages to using faders, which I'll get to here in a little bit, the bottom line is you should be able to achieve everything you want to achieve with a good piece of recording software. Recording programs have highly advanced automation built in. They have to take advantage of the automation inputed with a DAW Controller.

Better Things To Blow Your Money On

Since, I consider DAW control surfaces to be useful toys, but certainly not required for making great music, I'd like to list the things I would blow my money on first.

#1 Get Better Clients – This is a huge one. I'd take a pay cut and offer to produce a band cheap as long as you get the chance to work with the best bands.

#2 Improve Your Monitoring – The hardest part about mixing is not the recording software. Switching to using faders vs using a mouse has no guarantee that your quality will improve. However, improving your monitoring systems ability to give an accurate perspective of what's going on WILL improve your mixes. There is no doubt about it. So before you get your panties in a wad about fancy little electronic gadgets that move on their own, focus on what is definitely going to improve your recording quality.

#3 Improve Your Mic Collection – It sucks not having the right mic for the job. Arm yourself with enough mics to handle just about any task (assuming you don't already have all of your tasks taken care of).

#4 Improve Your Plugins – Having the right tools for mixing is very important to me. I've rather have the right compressor for the job or a killer reverb than a mouse alternative.


The Advantages of DAW control surfaces

I must admit that I've never mixed any recordings with a DAW controller. However, with mixing many live shows and talking to enough guys who do (people been trying to convince me to get a controller for years) I'll list some of their arguments.


Human Feel During Automation
Before I begin this section, you may want to check out Volume Automation: The Most Powerful Mixing Tool . Even if you don't read the article (Oh come on! You don't want to miss out on this literary masterpiece!!), the title implies that volume automation is a big deal. In fact, it's a HUGE deal. Most beginners have absolutely no idea just how much levels change in their favorite mix. Without you knowing it, the faders were probably going all over the place. I'd bet the average guitar solo goes up in down (although slightly) 30 or 40 times on average. Each note has a certain place it needs to sit in the mix and automation lets you get those notes in the perfect spot. Sometimes you want to draw attention to something and really emphasize it. Anyway, you can read the article if you really want to know all about it.

Now, I get excited just thinking about the ways that automation has improved my mixes while using a mouse. Using a fader is a totally different thing. In this case, using a fader is kind of it's own performance. It adds a certain randomness to the entire process where you may find those “happy accidents”. There is debate on this one. I say I can draw anything I want and therefore achieve exactly what I envision in my head. Others say that this is bologna and that using your hands is always the best way. Of course, if using your hand can't achieve your creative vision, then it's no good. I don't know. You'll have to figure this one out yourself. Just keep in mind that many of the old timers have been using a console since Vietnam and are very set in their ways when it comes to mixing a record.

My generation (the first generation of computer only recording dudes) may end up having a different opinion altogether.


Using Left Brain vs Right Brain – When using a DAW Controller, there is no doubt that you use a different side of your brain. After mixing for 6 years almost every day with a mouse, I've learned to flip the mouse well aggressively when adjusting levels on a volume fader. The idea is this will “challenge” the mix. If yanking the fader of a guitar down 6dB still doesn't sound too bad, I was probably way too loud before. Basically, I've developed my own miniature workaround for finding levels that work in a song.

Of course, this is kind of done automatically with a DAW Controller. While I could very easily see a person adjusting levels 1dB at a time with a mouse, most people aren't going to take this approach with faders. It's too easy to pull the fader all the way down and then push it way too loud.

With this method, you can “challenge” the mix pretty easily with either a mouse of a fader. However, the fader is more naturally adept to this.

Pumping Music To Faders – I hear this is a really fun one. The idea is you take a track and pump it to the fader. The end result? You have tracks that bounce to the music. This is supposed to be an awesome trick, but I must admit that I've never tried it, unfortunately. To do this with a mouse by hand would be ridiculously meticulous to the point that it may not be worth the trouble.

This is just one example of possibilities that are opened up with a fader that may not be so feasible when mixing with a mouse.


Conclusion

I think that DAW control surfaces are great little tools, but I don't think they are exactly required. I think there are some benefits to using real faders when getting levels, but I think a person can work around them. In the end, I think a mix would sound pretty much the same regardless if I used a mouse or a DAW Controller because I have a vision of exactly what I want to do after listening to the rough tracks the first time. If you don't have a vision for a mix, I can't see faders helping anyway.

Faders do allow you to do some cool tricks that wouldn't otherwise be reasonable with a mouse. These are usually cool bonus tricks that probably could help a lot of tunes but aren't going to make any life changing impacts on you. (Then again, maybe using your hands will change your entire approach to mixing...what do I know?)

I think there are legitimate reasons to use a DAW Controller, but I think these reasons are null and void unless you are recording damn good musicians, damn good song, and have a damn good monitoring system.


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  • Comment #1 (Posted by urbankeys)
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    Can you explain how to pump music to faders ?

     
  • Comment #2 (Posted by Don Kallestad)
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    This is exactly the problem I have been debating before buying my DAW system. The article was extremly helpful. Thanks !!
     
  • Comment #3 (Posted by anonymous)
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    Basically, a poorly written article that's an excuse to put up affiliate code links to Musician's Friend and make money. Even
    worse, the author writes about advantages/disadvantages of DAW
    control surfaces, but doesn't use them himself.

     
  • Comment #4 (Posted by A Boomer Brother)
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    You are right, they aint absolutely necessary but pressing a stop and start and rewind button is very convenient. A small tool like the M-Audio iControl that Avid launched for "garage bands" ( who would ever admit being one of those?) and saw its sales flop because theyd made sure it would not control other DAWs, would be a boon. Please send us one soon,lord.
     
  • Comment #5 (Posted by Tease)
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    I like this article.

    I'm getting a daw controller :)

    Ridin' vocals with a mouse is annoying and takes the fun out af mixing.
     
  • Comment #6 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    sensible talk
     
  • Comment #7 (Posted by genmce)
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    You can also use whatever controller you have with http://shoshin.110mb.com/genmce/
    for free!
    Try it, why not!
     
  • Comment #8 (Posted by Marty)
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    Largely agree but maybe that's because I don't use one either.
    I do believe once you get accustomed to a controller you'd probably take a different view.
    The one thing a controller is good at is to remedy the most annoying part of mouse-only operation:
    the constant scrolling around the place and rearranging windows to expose and adjust the control you need.
     
  • Comment #9 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Very good article explaining why to and to not use a fader control surface. He is right, but should have suggested important things like better interface hardware or a to d conversion, sample rates, and merging technologies like DSD and DXD.
     
  • Comment #10 (Posted by MIDI Control)
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    Actualy, a DAW controller is extreamly useful for live music. It really depends what your going to use it for. You can assign effects and loops to the various sliders making your live sets sound amazingly unique. The motorised control on the m-audio projectmix looks very useful. I have ordered mine m-audio and it is on it's way! I can't wait for it to arrive!
     
  • Comment #11 (Posted by Lipaz)
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    Yes, the article was helpful, however I cannot understand why it's so hard to understand, that mouse and PC-keyboard are killing the creativity. Faders and knobs are feeding the desire.
    For those, who are making electronical but classical music on the PC (DAW) with a mic and maybe with 1-3 instruments... a MIDI DAW controller (analog style mixing console) + audio interface would be the heaven.

    Also I have to say that these 1000+ USD controllers are shit, just look at them. They are designed to sell them not to use them. They know to much or almost nothing, but never what a one-man home studio need. In my studio I could imagine also one good daw-midi-controller with knobs and faders (nothing more, nothing less) like an analog mixing (mastering) console has. There is no controller like this... 21. century shit :((((
     
  • Comment #12 (Posted by Brandon Drury)
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    I personally don't see how a mouse is killing creativity. For me (I admit to being a computer nerd) the creative part comes when I decide that I want X sound whether it be delay, a specific balance, etc.

    From there, it's just an issue of playing around until I get it. Whether that means drawing lines or scrolling around, I don't really feel limited at all my a mouse.

    The idea of a big console with a bunch of different faders does sound fun and it may be a bit faster to get initial levels. However, I can't see an enormous difference from me flinging a mouse wheel up or down verse pushing a fader up or down.

    Are the controllers convenient? Yes. Are they the saviors of musical creativity. I don't think so.

    Brandon
     
  • Comment #13 (Posted by Lipaz)
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    OK. Let's say it is more convenient and fun, to control your music with faders and pots (I'm not speaking about a huge console) and not with mouse. If people would be asked about it, there would be a HUGE demand on item like this. And it's simple to make it for the factories. I don't care that is not on the market right now, or nobody says it is needed. I say it, and will tell it to factories with a complete plan. Than it's up to them whether they will do it or not.
     
  • Comment #14 (Posted by Brandon Drury)
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    Okay, well if you've got an innovative way to create a control surface for 1/10th the price of the current control surfces, I'm in.

    Good luck. I expect there is a reason the typical control surface is $1000+.
     
  • Comment #15 (Posted by Lipaz)
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    Thanks! Hope you will enjoy it. The main reason of 1000+ USD is the market. The factory says you can buy this for that amount, and you do it. The MIDI is very simple thing, read about it. :)
     
  • Comment #16 (Posted by 35thst.com)
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    OK a novice needs to use a mouse to start. I need to upgrade my Amek with a surface that I can fit in the frame and trying to mix with out fader-s on 64+channels is very time intensive. and time is the customers money! so what do I purchase to retrofit to my frame?
     
  • Comment #17 (Posted by Martin)
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    Great, thanks man!
     
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