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Quit Your Band NOW!

Brandon Drury —  December 14, 2010

This is going to be a wimpy blog. I know, I know. Most of you think I’m the toughest SOB on Earth, but I do own Secondhand Lions on DVD. I have a sensitive side that involves beating up kids, shooting salesman, hating my family, and going out with my boots on.

So my ruckus unit (band) and I had some opposing viewpoints. There have been some “points of disagreement” for some time, but overall it was a great thing. It turns out that the biggest mistake I made was not quitting earlier.

Let’s Get Complicated

Quitting is always a bad thing where I come from. The idea of quitting a band is near-treason to the guys you’ve mutually agreed to go on a mission with. The mission needs to complete itself before anyone goes their own way. That’s the black and white viewpoint. I’ll call it the WW2 point of view.

In reality, life is a lot more like a Vietnam. In my specific band situation, we were all struggling with lack of resources. One guy didn’t have much cash to contribute. One guy ran off his fiance presumably because he wasn’t giving her enough time. I have fallen WAY behind on my RecordingReview duties (what else is new). The other two guys were dumbasses. (har har)

While I can’t speak for the other guys, I was facing MAJOR stress for not doing my RecordingReview.com duty. I felt guilty after each and every band practice (unless I was extra thirsty that day) for not giving proper time to this dream gig I refer to as RecordingReview.com.

What I didn’t realize was I bitching about this whole choosing the band over RecordingReview work to my band mates. I was bitching about all the opportunity I was losing. I thought I was just talking about life. I thought it was no different than “my girlfriend cheated on me” or “I broke my leg” or “I got fired”. It turns out that my personal issues were directly conflicting with the band and were bringing down my band mates. They thought I was blaming them for my career problems.

I knew when I joined the band (directly after the first KHR launch in October of 2009) that I just didn’t have much time. A part of me wanted to make time for fun after working nearly 400 hours in September of 2009. It turns out that I WAS having fun with RecordingReview. KHR was just a bitch to create and launch. I didn’t need a new hobby. I just needed a nap.

The general idea was to make a record, start playing shows all the time, and see what happens. I always had a MAJOR problem with playing the shows because I knew that would throw my life even further out of balance in the time department. For some of you, Saturday night is a natural night for rocking out at the local bar. For me, a studio hermit and workaholic, it was my one time each week to interact with the human species. I would have to tell the woman, my family, and myself “too bad” as I played my shows all over the area. This would cause more problems. In short, I was trying to fit 9 days into a 7 day week. Something has to give and I’m already missing sleep. It would have gotten ugly.

I found myself rationalizing all kinds of reasons not to want to play live when, in reality, I knew it was going to wreck my time and throw my whole life out of whack. I liken this to the guy who now owes the mob boss $80,000 in Vegas after a few bad gambling decisions. I knew I had a debt that was going to be VERY painful to pay!

Hell, I found myself playing guitar ONLY at practice. I’m normally a 1-2 hours a day kind of guy. I wasn’t prepared for practice. I was falling way behind. (This was while I was having my ultra-fun console wiring month!) The band knew I was short on time and not contributing like I normally do.

Hindsight #1

Right off the bat, we should have made a list of how much time and money each of us could allocate to all band duties. (I would have came up with 0 minutes if I was being honest with myself.) I should have spoken up and said, “Here is how much time and money I’ve got for this project. If you can live with it, great. If not, I should bail now.” I never really did that. That’s where I screwed up.

Hindsight #2

The band should officially declared our “mission”. (Not a “mission statement” like people who go to “business school” do. I mean a mission like “which village are we going to attack today?”). We should have said, “We are going to play out this often and it’s going to cost this much money to obtain PA, props, etc”. Then, everyone could agree to the official mission. If anyone had a problem with playing 8 shows per month, they could say, “Uhhh, this ain’t gonna work for me”.

None of us ever formally committed to any form of investment. It was just kinda implied. This reminds me of when you are dating a chick. There’s that implied moment where it’s not cool to bang any other chicks, and it MUST be spoken that you and the chick are official and that means you are officially off the meat market.

Conclusion

The second you realize that you do not have the required resources to give to the band, get together, talk about it, and if you are holding the band back, GET OUT..

If you are bitching and whining (or just talking about) how the band is a major pain in your life-ass, you aren’t doing anyone any favors. You are sabotaging the thing.

If you feel relieved that you skipped band practice, GET OUT.

Call a meeting and tell everyone that you’ll only be holding them back as you just can’t scrape up the required resources without causing major pain in other life areas. They will already know exactly what is going on. If they are are decent people, they will respect you for admitting that you don’t have the time for the gig and understand that your other commitments are what they are. If you are anything like me, you are easily replaceable. (har har)

If they don’t realize your contributions have been lacking, or don’t respect your other commitments, they are scum. Enjoy watching them get angry with you as it reflects how unaware they are and how much they don’t give a damn about you.

Turbo Conclusion

It’s been three weeks since I wrote the first draft for this blog. In that time, I’ve have dramatically more time for RecordingReview.com, the woman, guitar playing, and all the other things that make me happy. It’s amazing what freeing up just one day per week and a lot of guilt can do. Life is good. Very good!

I haven’t seen my former band mates, and this does suck a little bit, but running out of egg nog the other day was more devastating. Dudes have a way of hanging out when they can and it’s not like you lose sleep when you haven’t seen them in a few weeks.

Best of all, I don’t have this big dark cloud over my head that makes me feel obligated to do something I ultimately don’t want to do.

Moving on was the right decision.

Brandon Drury

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Brandon Drury quit counting at 1,200 recorded songs in his busy home recording studio. He is the creator of RecordingReview.com and is the author of the Killer Home Recording series.
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36 responses to Quit Your Band NOW!

  1. dude. we should go for a beer sometime. if we can find the time.

  2. Well said! Have a good Christmas and an awsome new year!!

  3. If you must quit the band, let the guys know with enough time so they can find a replacement for you. Most of us are easily replaced with one phone call, but sometimes it might be a bit harder (like if you own the PA system the band uses). Just be up front and honest with your bandmates about your situation and most guys will respect that. Who knows, later on your situation may change and you might be available for the band again. Don’t burn bridges by quitting on the band on the way to a gig. That’s where guys lose respect for you and you won’t find much respect from others in the music business either. The way you leave a band can be just as important as the way you join a band.

    I agree that you are cheating yourself and your bandmates if you don’t have the same goals. You might not need a mission statement to run a band, but talking about goals, practice time, and gig schedules that everyone can commit to is very important.

  4. Nothing worse than someone leading you on. From day one, you’re either in or you’re out. It’s that simple. Everyone should be clear of their goals from the start. Whether that’s just playing a few shows a month or aiming for the big time by practicing for hours and hours each day. Everyone needs to be exactly on the same page when it comes to what “the band” wants to accomplish. From there you commit. Like I said, it’s simple.

  5. Wow Brandon, dude, you were running around in circles, I bet you are a lot happier now. Man, if you’re going to pursue being an artist, and have any real expectations of getting anywhere, the first thing you have to do is make being an artist priority number one. It’s a business, and it has to be approached as one. A “band” Isn’t what everyone believes it is. Actually, a band is the lead singer, and whoever is the principal songwriter. All of that macho, we’re on a mission together stuff gets washed over really damn quick when real money comes into the picture. They can all say, “Nah, not us man.” Whatever. Do what you love Brandon. You’llalways be much happier this way. I remember walking away from performing to get into management, and especially songwriting, and production.

    Focus is the key ingredient for success. Pick one thing, and run with it. Put all of your energy into this one thing, and you will see progress. You say, you’re a work-a-holic? Imagine if you invest all of the energy you have in one direction Brandon. No more robbing Peter to pay Paul. Choose one direction, and focus. Simple. Life is always easier when you simplify. Think in guitar terms, that simple 2 chord riff sounds very powerful when it’s done correctly. Rich, thick, harmonic soup but, when you start doing some really fast, and technically intertwined guitar parts, the complications, you can’t hear BIG any longer becuse it’s not, and nobody except a bunch of guitar players are even going to know what’s going on anyway…concensus? Make ‘em bang their heads!
    In the end, the simple, 2 chord riff that makes ‘em bob their heads up, and down will make more money everytime. Keep-It-Simple-Stupid, the K-I-S-S Rule works everytime.

    Nice to breathe huh?
    Warm girls are nice too!
    Stay Happy Brandon!

  6. hey Brandon,

    I found your post very interesting. hits really close to the heart. I have a band, we practice 2x a week, and the place is 1 hour away from my home, but i also work only 10 mins from our studio so it makes it ok. however, my job isn’t paying me as it’s a business that a colleague and i started together, i brokeup with my gf recently, and i sold my car so i’m getting around on my bike and public transit and rails. my doubts of being able to keep my commitment are brewing… you bring up some really good points in your blog tho. thanks for sharing your story.

  7. Sad but true,our problem was lack of commitment,not equipment.
    We survivors went home studio right away(2000)and never looked back, we even do an occasional live set, play on Brother,
    Y

  8. brilliant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    that makes so much sense why haven’t other people thought of it before ?

    bands should all do that analysis before anybody starts. we have a lot fewer krapppy bands out there, and a lot more people less unhappy.

  9. Thanks for the much obvious commen sense.

  10. I like your reasoning and your bluntness. I don’t like some of your somewhat crude comments, but differences aside, I am thankful that I have the opportunity to read your blog, reviews, and all of the recording knowledge you share. I have really been wanting to buy your killer recording books. I’m just waiting for some extra dough. After Christmas ya know.
    In regards to quitting the band, you have helped me with my decision to quit my worship band at church. I have been leading the worship services for over 20 years and I have developed the attitude that you mentioned,ie you just want to be somewhere else. I want to have the time to put more of my life into my teenage kids. I feel compelled to minister to my family instead of the congregation.
    So, even though you are not a believer, an assumption on my part, God is still using you to help me and for His glory. Keep your chin up as the Brits say and I pray that God will bless your endeavors here.

    Bryce

  11. …surely, we have the same point of view.
    last year, I had also the same story and after a long reflexion, I announced that I quit my band, therefore I was one of the original founder and now I can say that it was not a wrong decision but the right one, maybe the difference is that I was the one who really gives all I can (money, time,materials…) to make things move on for the band but the others don’t follow and almost do nothing to support all my initiatives that’s why I said it’s enough for me.

  12. so if the moral of the story is to do what you’re most passionate about, i’d have to say i think this logic could probably work quite the opposite way for a lot of us musicians on here too. for instance i just realized i need to quit my job and brake up with my girl friend to make more time for the band. hahaha

    anyway seriously though, i just wanted to say, i just signed up to 8 different recording forums a few days ago for first time with the intent to figure out some specific technical shit, anyway this forum honestly was, by beyond compare, so far the most helpful of them all, not to mention the most user friendly, as i’d never been on a forum of any kind until then.

    and further more, after a quick frolic through the threads of thee other 7 forums, this one with out a doubt seems to have the most personality and wit. the other ones i went on seemed pretty generic, and impersonal.

    coincidence? at first i didn’t think about it or care, but after reading this blog… well it’s always been my belief that passion makes all the difference, and your above post seems to be yet another testimony to this.

    i fucking hope this doesn’t sound like ass kissing or anything like that, i just think that when someone’s doing what there passionate about, and doing it well, its everyone who’s benefiting’s duty to at the very least, let them know.

    so, good shit!!! and thanks the email! and thanks for the help! merry christmas.

  13. Yeah, don’t bother with a band unless you have the time to enjoy it. Nice post.

    I say if you’re neither getting paid or developing as a musician from the band you’re playing with, it’s just not worth it.

  14. HaHa good for you. I came to the same conclusion years ago. While it is loads of fun, I just don’t have the time for it anymore. Plus the fact that because of Steven Slate, I don’t have to argue with a drummer anymore; Because of Mr. Lepou I don’t have to spend tons of cash on keeping my amps up and running or even purchasing thousands of dollars worth of gear; thanks to the wonderful people at who created Reaper, I can do it myself, at my house, on my own time, how I want. I use to look back and long for crazy giging alcohol fueled weekends, now I’m actually getting something accomplished. I’ll take it!

  15. I don’t like some of your somewhat crude comments, but differences aside,

    Wow! I tip my hat to you, Bryce. Usually the people who don’t enjoy my sense of humor tell me to commit suicide. I already tried that!! (Not really…if I set out to do something, I get the damn job done!)

    In regards to quitting the band, you have helped me with my decision to quit my worship band at church. I have been leading the worship services for over 20 years and I have developed the attitude that you mentioned,ie you just want to be somewhere else. I want to have the time to put more of my life into my teenage kids. I feel compelled to minister to my family instead of the congregation.
    So, even though you are not a believer, an assumption on my part, God is still using you to help me and for His glory.

    Yeah dude, the kids have got to come first. There are usually people waiting in line to play in the church band (talent levels vary). A close friend of mind doesn’t play in the church band when it’s his weekend with the kids.

    Keep your chin up as the Brits say and I pray that God will bless your endeavors here.

    I don’t hear that often. Then again, some think I’m the anti-Christ because of my particular world view. Either way, same back to you and Merry Christmas.

  16. Wow! (sniff) Thinking about your readers over a band (my tears are falling on my mixing board BZZZT! plume of smoke!

    Thanks

  17. Yeah, makes sense. Currently I play with three bands, but mostly one is involved, at a time, that is, there is always something going on with one, which makes it impossible to work with: having babies, going away to another country, having a strop, or just basically taking a break for a bit. I don’t mind, unless two gigs turn up at once! which has happened a few times, then it’s up to who called first. sometimes I have had to do an unpaid one instead, which means I usually then have to go work somewhere else painting and decorating, or mending something, to get money, to feed the running of a home studio, a historic car, a home, and a woman! I was thinking more than ever about how complicated my life had started to become, when up jumps this email from Home Recording forum, the most active recording forum ever.

    As for whether I’ll listen and take any advice, it’s a hard one, I enjoy most parts of all of the bands, and love the recording process too, I just love making Great Music able to be heard well. What I fail miserably at is self promotion.

    The point being I suppose, is that whatever you are doing, It is imperative that you love doing it.

    Yes…chin up ye old ‘satanic’ bean!! Enjoy being the captain of your ship!

    And thanks… for your hard work.

  18. Sorry Brandon, you can’t be the anti-Christ, that position has already been filled by the US president. Whoops, was that my outside voice :)
    Just kidding ya know, so please don’t flame me anyone.
    PS
    Merry Christmas to you.

  19. Man I totally understand and ended up quitting my band, joining the army, playing in the army band. Moving to California, becoming an engineer, Getting a publishing deal having songs covered and traveling all over the world and getting paid for it!! All because I saw that my bandmates were not into it the way I was. I’m much better for quitting. Funny they don’t find the time to come out to gigs when I come to town. I guess getting up in the wee hours of the morning to hit that factory is hard!!

  20. Focus is the key ingredient for success.

    Yeah, I agree 110%. When splitting between multiple roles (particularly when you can’t get everything you’d like finished in a day) it’s the little things that get ignored. That could be anything from a intermittent cable on guitar pedalboard to not finding 10 minutes needed to send out a newsletter. Both of these small tasks have a huge impact on what I do. By focusing, I find there is a huge synergy.

    Anyone stressed out with too many unessential tasks, needs to ditch those tasks.

  21. Damn brother….its like you wrote that just for me and my situation….I was feeling guilty and quite reluctant of my recent decision to leave my current band, but your message has now washed all of those feelings right off of my back. Thanks Brandon and have some great holidays man!

  22. Damn brother….its like you wrote that just for me and my situation….I was feeling guilty and quite reluctant of my recent decision to leave my current band, but your message has now washed all of those feelings right off of my back. Thanks Brandon and have some great holidays man!

    Bad ass, dude!

    I only intended to write a blog with a title that would piss people off. It’s nice to know I’ve done some good, too. har har

    For those into nerdy philosophy stuff, I highly recommend Thick Face, Black Heart. It’s not a literary masterpiece, but the concept of defining your core morals, sticking to them, and being flat out ruthless to get what you ultimately want has been priceless for me.

    Anyway, Merry Christmas, Full Crib!

    Brandon

  23. bob of gofish duo December 18, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    Hi Brandon and everyone else..interesting blog! And for the record, I like the way you express yourself..It always amazes me that some sectors of the community feel they have a right to tell you how to live and speak!
    Anyway, the blog…oh yeah, quitting bands! I’ve done my fair share of that..sometimes for the reasons you point out above, and sometimes because I couldn’t stand the self-appointed leaders who steered the band in the direction of ‘their’ choice! Now most of my career has been spent in ‘cover’ bands, and the problem has always been ‘what’ songs to cover..In a four piece band I expected to have at least a quarter of the say…needless to say, it never worked out that way in the long run!
    So my choices inevitably boiled down to..”if you want your ‘fair’ share of control, then do it all yourself”.
    The thought of a ‘one-man-band’ horrified me! You know, the kick drum strapped to your back with a pedal connected to the back of your heal, and a harmonica mount on your face while carrying an acoustic guitar in your arms ha ha! I can’t see that going down too well in the genre that interests me…metal!
    These days I’ve given up the thought of performing live, but since that decision, I’ve been able to pursue my metal ‘dreams’ in an original format with my wife Barb as a duo. There are several good web sites like this one, that are my audience now…and I get to dabble in ‘all’ the skills involved…singing, playing guitar/bass/synth, and recording, engineering and production!
    “Quit your Band”..and start making music for yourself! Thats the message I got from this blog….later bobby t

  24. Brandon, it is funny, considering that with the New Year coming up most of us usually rethink our decisions and take new paths in life.
    With that in mind, I’ve been thinking for a long time whether to quit one of my current bands.
    I am in two bands and as you mentioned – juggling it all could be quite a daunting task.
    So this band probably has the better music but also the most lack of commitment or finances. Not that the other members are poor, but the fact that they don’t want to put anything into it financially. So the budget for recording is 0 and I have to produce a record somehow.
    On top of that personality-wise things are not fun. I don’t think we’re friends anymore. The other guitarist and I get along and then we currently have a female singer and a drummer along for the ride.

    We make them look good, not the other way around, at least how I see it. As the other guitarist and I write most of the tunes and lyrics (say about 98%), I produce all the music and we jointly do the drum ideas on a machine before taking it to the drummer who puts a bit of his own spin on it.

    We recently lost our bassist which pretty much kills our gigging ability and replacements are not that easy to find as we play prog metal and it is a technically challenging genre that requires skill. So to top everything else, I’ve also picked up bass duties, at least for the current record being produced.

    To put the final nail in the coffin, the drummer has pawned half of his kit, citing financial problems, then wants ot move us to a bigger and more expensive rehearsal space to accommodate a project he is a helping a friend with and to top insult to injury, he just bought a $1000 drum kit for his son. At the same time he can’t record because of half his kit is missing!

    I found a drummer replacement – someone actually better that can come in and nail the songs but the other two people don’t want to go through drummer changes and hang on to this dude. So the way things are going:

    1) I have 0 fun in this band
    2) I see huge lack of commitment on the drummer’s behalf
    3) I write most of the music
    4) I get no support from the other members when the tough decision has to be made.

    So with all this, quitting seems like the only viable option as I can’t see anything serious happening with this record until September next year, which is way too far.

    Your article in a way defined or clarified some of these points, or maybe just provided another view into the situation which helps. I think I’ll finally make the right choice and quit.

  25. 1) I have 0 fun in this band

    You only live once, dude.

    The hard questions come up when you have tons of fun and have to make a difficult decision. When you hate it, get out. It’s as simple as that.

    I’ve said for a long time that people vote with their dollars. The things that are important to them are the things that they put their money into. While there is no rule that says a person has to dump a billion bucks into their band/recording studio/etc, when a person puts a seemingly disproportionate amount of their resources into non-band things, it’s clear where their priorities rest.

    Be bold and make the best decision for you. You only live once.

    4) I get no support from the other members when the tough decision has to be made.

    There are certainly many passive types out there that maybe do have an opinion but don’t express it. Personally, I think if a person isn’t vocal when it comes to ultra-serious time, they probably aren’t ultra-serious. These people need to be respected, but if they aren’t willing to stand up (one way or the other) then that means you have to.

    Good luck, dude!

  26. sometimes because I couldn’t stand the self-appointed leaders who steered the band in the direction of ‘their’ choice!

    I can’t figure out which is worse: a band with a bad leader or a band with no leader.

    These days I’ve given up the thought of performing live, but since that decision, I’ve been able to pursue my metal ‘dreams’ in an original format with my wife Barb as a duo. There are several good web sites like this one, that are my audience now…and I get to dabble in ‘all’ the skills involved…singing, playing guitar/bass/synth, and recording, engineering and production!

    Awesome! I personally get infinitely greater satisfaction from creating my own pieces of noise than I do from playing live. Everyone is different in this, but never having to back down from a bold idea and spending my time creating as opposed to practicing for future U-haul competitions has been absolutely perfect for me.

    “Quit your Band”..and start making music for yourself! Thats the message I got from this blog….later bobby t

    Ha! Well, sorta. It was more about people doing or dieing. For people who can’t commit, they should get out. For people who DO want to commit, give it hell! If every band broke up, I wouldn’t have anyone to make fun of anymore. Har har!

  27. Bands need someone with a vision for the tunes.

    Having NO leader is worse by far. I feel having a “leader” is the key ingredient to success. Somebody has to have a vision. Everybody in the band has to contribute their part but it really does come down to the song and whoever wrote that song should help the other members make sure that song speaks to the listener. The members that don’t want to be “controlled” as they might say, I SAY, write some of your own tunes… if your songs are good enough everyone will agree to do it. If they aren’t… keep writing because if nobody thinks it’s good then it’s not and if you disagree, start your own band.

  28. bob of gofish duo December 20, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Hi BSD(and Brandon)…essentially you are right, bands do ‘need’ leaders of sorts…no doubt about that! My issue about “self-appointed” leaders affected me more when I was in a covers band..nobody wanted to do the songs I chose to cover…’maybe’ it was me and the songs I chose, maybe it was ‘them’ controlling every aspect of ‘their’ band(hey It’s ‘MY’ band too you know!..)

    Quote..”Everybody in the band has to contribute their part but it really does come down to the song and whoever wrote that song should help the other members make sure that song speaks to the listener.” end quote..
    So who ever wrote the song(lyrics and/or music?..)has ‘control’, but you say everybody in the band has to contribute..if the rest of the band genuinely ‘contribute’, then who really is the leader here?
    You see, this is what I’m talking about. The ‘song’ is a compilation from ‘all’ members of the band, unless the leader directs every nuance, note, key, tempo etc., etc.,…and ‘who’ as a thinking feeling musician is going to accept that deal and feel an equal part of this or any band?
    What is the point of being in a band if someone else is directing everything you do? Would you feel like quitting under this scenario?
    OK, my idea of leadership obviously differs from most, and that essentially answers my question about why I was never really happy in cover bands.
    To be the ‘leader’..everything I say goes! Result…band members are unhappy and feel used and unsatisfied, if that self-appointed leader allows others to add their personal signature to the piece, then is that person not neccessarily a leader, but reduced to a contributor themselves? This person is just calling themself a leader!
    Who is the leader of Slipknot?…..and..What is the length of a piece of string?(has nothing to do with subject but has awesome huh..? factor!…)
    OK, maybe I would be more happy BSD and Brandon, if we said “All bands need a spokesperson”…not neccessarily a ‘leader’…
    In finalizing, think about this…in your mind, describe the most perfect personal relationship you could possibly have with your other bandmates. What would it be like for you?
    Then put yourself in your bandmate’s shoes, and see if you would swallow it. nuff said! Merry Xmas all! later! bobby t

  29. I think the biggest problem with most bands starting out is learning how to work together. Most people can’t deal with constructive criticism at all. We as people get defensive very easily. Most disgruntled members would say something along the lines of “It’s never MY way it’s always YOUR way” To me right there lies the truth behind that person’s intentions. It’s not about the tune they just want their way. Easiest thing, you’re unhappy? Quit and start your own band, become the one in charge and set an example of how you think a band should work. Two things can happen, you either prove your point or you find out what it’s like on the other side. And if you haven’t been on the other side trust me it’s not as pretty as it may seem. I’ve been on both sides and know where each side is coming from.

    I have always found the best result comes from the other members serving the tune… that doesn’t mean you have no say, it just means you’re completely open to finding the BEST way to support the tune. I also think everyone in the band should try writing songs as well as playing each other’s instruments. You never know what may turn up… the guitar player might be the one who writes the lyrics or the singer comes up with the general rhythms for the tunes. Everyone has a strength and most bands and band leaders don’t spend the time to search for those strengths.

    I still think somebody needs to be in charge of the tunes. That person should be whoever wrote the tune. That doesn’t mean only one person can write the songs… who wrote the songs in the Beatles? Was it Lennon and McCartney or Lennon, McCartney, Harrison and Starr? I think it was just whoever had the best songs for the album. And I would put money on it that they worked together on each other’s tunes until it was right.

  30. bob of gofish duo December 20, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Hi BSD..I wholly agree…so when one does find an outfit like that, it would make sense to cherish what you have. bobby t

  31. I don’t think you find an outfit like that, you create one together. As long as everyone’s focus is on the song and everyone has a legitimate reason for suggesting any change to a song things should work fine. A band is a relationship, there will be some arguing back and forth but you should always agree on one thing to keep the peace, the goals you’ve set together to achieve. Writing meaningful songs with a purpose, whatever that purpose may be. That’s why I said in an earlier post, “Everyone should be clear of their goals from the start. Everyone needs to be exactly on the same page when it comes to what “the band” wants to accomplish.” Do that and you should run into any problems.

  32. see above, made a typo

    Do that and you shouldn’t run into any problems.

  33. bob of gofish duo December 21, 2010 at 3:15 am

    Sounds good BSD..

  34. @Brandon – thanks for the followup, you made some really good points, especially the vote with your $.
    In that regard the other guitarist and singer haven’t invested much (if any $) into the band, well we all paid for a run of tshirts but that was about it.
    The drummer provided half the PA, even bought a banner to hang at concerts, but he is the one slacking on learning the new tunes the last 6 months and not giving much hope for the future.
    I’ve bought a lot of recording gear and half of the PA gear and if it wasn’t for the band I would’ve probably gone with a smaller interface and a high end single channel preamp instead of the 8 track interface I have now.

    The problem of getting out is that I have to fire everybody as I do own the website, facebook, am the oldest member and have about 70% copyright of all the tunes.

    The more I think about it, the more I like the idea.

  35. The musician who really took the idea to record himself and use musicians to perform his studio-created music was Frank Zappa. He always got the latest and greatest gizmos, even got techheads to invent new stuff for him … he found he had MUCH more control over his music. He had a lot of trouble getting musos to play his works, cos they’re kinda intense … but hey! I reckon he was the greatest composer and musician of last century.

    I just got me one of them new Digitech JamMan Stereo Delays … and have also ordered a USB cable to plug my guitar directly into the computer … and this for me is the start of my home recording journey.

    Oh, and this came about because I’ve just joined a band … and the guys are movitating me like crazy.

  36. Actually I just started writing for another project with a great local singer and the drummer from my other band so that is my main focus. I’ve agreed to finish the songs that are currently being worked on with this band so I’ll push towards the recording and see where it goes. Writing some new material definitely helps!