Comments on: No Mid-Grade 8 Channel AD Converters With ADAT Lightpipe http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/mic-preamps/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/ Make Home Recordings Pro Audio Recordings Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:25:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: darranwilson http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/mic-preamps/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/comment-page-1/#comment-4090 darranwilson Sat, 04 Sep 2010 23:25:51 +0000 http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/#comment-4090 I guess the real kicker here in this argument is that after 2 years nothing has changed in the market except that behringer bought Midas.... I too have been in the field when the main outs on a Midas 56 Chan Verona decided to go bad and fart every 10 seconds.... Sent to authorized repair center, came back doing the same thing... Sometimes its nice to be able to go to the local shop and pick up a sub $500 replacement in the middle of a gig and not be dead in the water while you 10K+ board is on vacation.... I guess the real kicker here in this argument is that after 2 years nothing has changed in the market except that behringer bought Midas....

I too have been in the field when the main outs on a Midas 56 Chan Verona decided to go bad and fart every 10 seconds....
Sent to authorized repair center, came back doing the same thing... Sometimes its nice to be able to go to the local shop and pick up a sub $500 replacement in the middle of a gig and not be dead in the water while you 10K+ board is on vacation....

]]> By: brandondrury http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/mic-preamps/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/comment-page-1/#comment-2167 brandondrury Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:15:57 +0000 http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/#comment-2167 I don't think the Digimax D8 (which I just finished up the review for) was out at the time of this writing. I was actually looking for just the converter since I already had the 8-channel Presonus M80. Brandon I don't think the Digimax D8 (which I just finished up the review for) was out at the time of this writing.

I was actually looking for just the converter since I already had the 8-channel Presonus M80.

Brandon

]]> By: Derek http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/mic-preamps/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/comment-page-1/#comment-2165 Derek Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:20:34 +0000 http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/#comment-2165 whats wrong with the PreSonus DigiMAX? Its well under 1k and has the exact same preamps you have in the firestudio. whats wrong with the PreSonus DigiMAX? Its well under 1k and has the exact same preamps you have in the firestudio.

]]> By: Seth http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/mic-preamps/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/comment-page-1/#comment-2030 Seth Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:08:45 +0000 http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/#comment-2030 I'm in the same boat, so I'm curious if you've settled on anything. On the cheap end, other then the Behrigher and the ones discussed above there's also the Aphex 142 (around 400). I am trying to upgrade from my current cheapo solution, which is to use my old ADAT XT-20 tape machines. They only do 20/48, but they do it quite nicely. Actually, given how cheap used XT-20s are (I saw them listed at Muscigoround for under 150; it gives me a headache thinking about it), it's always a possible solution as long as you don't mind the 20 bit limit. Just ignore the tape machine aspect (and the size and weight of the things), plug line inputs into the RCA or Elco inputs, and you have instant 20 bit data coming out through the ADAT lightpipes. Also, they to D to A as well, so you can use the outputs to monitor, etc. Seth I'm in the same boat, so I'm curious if you've settled on anything. On the cheap end, other then the Behrigher and the ones discussed above there's also the Aphex 142 (around 400).
I am trying to upgrade from my current cheapo solution, which is to use my old ADAT XT-20 tape machines. They only do 20/48, but they do it quite nicely. Actually, given how cheap used XT-20s are (I saw them listed at Muscigoround for under 150; it gives me a headache thinking about it), it's always a possible solution as long as you don't mind the 20 bit limit. Just ignore the tape machine aspect (and the size and weight of the things), plug line inputs into the RCA or Elco inputs, and you have instant 20 bit data coming out through the ADAT lightpipes. Also, they to D to A as well, so you can use the outputs to monitor, etc.
Seth

]]> By: JM http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/mic-preamps/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/comment-page-1/#comment-1820 JM Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:58:41 +0000 http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/#comment-1820 Check eBay for RME -ADs of RME" anniversary" or frontier design's Tango . These will provide more than you asked for and cost less than you'd expect. JM Check eBay for RME -ADs of RME" anniversary" or frontier design's Tango . These will provide more than you asked for and cost less than you'd expect.
JM

]]> By: Jake D http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/mic-preamps/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/comment-page-1/#comment-1632 Jake D Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:15:07 +0000 http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/#comment-1632 Mackie makes one in that range. Sounds great. On the cleaner side of things. It's not a color/personality piece. Supports a bunch of different sampling rates, comes with a M/S decoder built in, word clock i/o, a few of the pres have variable impedance. Digital connections are rock solid. It's nice. About $1000. I've had mine for 2 years and have had 0 problems under every day, heavy use in a bust studio. I'd recommend it to anyone. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Onyx800R/ Mackie makes one in that range. Sounds great. On the cleaner side of things. It's not a color/personality piece. Supports a bunch of different sampling rates, comes with a M/S decoder built in, word clock i/o, a few of the pres have variable impedance. Digital connections are rock solid. It's nice. About $1000. I've had mine for 2 years and have had 0 problems under every day, heavy use in a bust studio. I'd recommend it to anyone.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Onyx800R/

]]> By: rgmusic http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/mic-preamps/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/comment-page-1/#comment-1545 rgmusic Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:01:55 +0000 http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/#comment-1545 Man, I'm feeling your pain. I have a Focusrite Saffire 26 i/o and a Mackie Onyx 1640. I really just want an 8-channel converter to ADAT to run from the Mackie's direct outs (using the onyx preamps) into the saffire's ADAT. When I'm ready, I'll grab an Apogee, but in the short term why can't I find a decent CONVERTER without cheap preamps that I'll never use and don't want to spend the money on? Argh! I wish someone had a good solution. Man, I'm feeling your pain. I have a Focusrite Saffire 26 i/o and a Mackie Onyx 1640. I really just want an 8-channel converter to ADAT to run from the Mackie's direct outs (using the onyx preamps) into the saffire's ADAT. When I'm ready, I'll grab an Apogee, but in the short term why can't I find a decent CONVERTER without cheap preamps that I'll never use and don't want to spend the money on?

Argh! I wish someone had a good solution.

]]> By: Per http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/mic-preamps/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/comment-page-1/#comment-823 Per Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:47:12 +0000 http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/#comment-823 Alesis AI3 ? Sm pro audio ao8.. http://www.thomann.de/se/sm_pro_audio_ao_8.htm Marion adcon http://www.thomann.de/se/marian_adcon.htm SONIC CORE A16 ULTRA http://www.thomann.de/se/creamware_a16_ultra.htm One of those maybe....? Per Alesis AI3 ?

Sm pro audio ao8..
http://www.thomann.de/se/sm_pro_audio_ao_8.htm

Marion adcon
http://www.thomann.de/se/marian_adcon.htm

SONIC CORE A16 ULTRA
http://www.thomann.de/se/creamware_a16_ultra.htm

One of those maybe....?
Per

]]> By: brandondrury http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/mic-preamps/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/comment-page-1/#comment-739 brandondrury Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:36:06 +0000 http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/#comment-739 For me, I've had the following Behringer products crap out on me in time of need: The ADA8000, The omni test microphone, a 4-channel headphone amp, and 2 pairs of headphones. Most of this stuff was brand new when it failed. I usually don't like making across the board statements, but it's clear to me that Behringer saves its money through lack of quality control. Then again, if you can get a good one, it usually is a decent product. Brandon For me, I've had the following Behringer products crap out on me in time of need:

The ADA8000, The omni test microphone, a 4-channel headphone amp, and 2 pairs of headphones. Most of this stuff was brand new when it failed. I usually don't like making across the board statements, but it's clear to me that Behringer saves its money through lack of quality control.

Then again, if you can get a good one, it usually is a decent product.

Brandon

]]> By: Baron http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/mic-preamps/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/comment-page-1/#comment-738 Baron Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:26:49 +0000 http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/no-mid-grade-8-channel-ad-converters-with-adat-lightpipe/#comment-738 If you want to take a moral standpoint them leave the Behringer alone. They have copied a lot of gear but changed it just enough to avoid a "black and white" suit. If you need something to get you out of trouble, and you need it cheap and quick, then Behringer can be one answer. The Behringer that fell over on you is unfortunate but I have had a large frame Midas console do the same thing! I suppose the difference is, when I rang the Midas distibutor, they delivered and setup a replacement in under two hours!!!! Behringer: "Welcome to Behringer customer service. Our office hours have not been decided on yet so please call back when we make up our minds or the product, in question, is discontinued" Cheers Baron If you want to take a moral standpoint them leave the Behringer alone. They have copied a lot of gear but changed it just enough to avoid a "black and white" suit.

If you need something to get you out of trouble, and you need it cheap and quick, then Behringer can be one answer.

The Behringer that fell over on you is unfortunate but I have had a large frame Midas console do the same thing!

I suppose the difference is, when I rang the Midas distibutor, they delivered and setup a replacement in under two hours!!!!

Behringer: "Welcome to Behringer customer service. Our office hours have not been decided on yet so please call back when we make up our minds or the product, in question, is discontinued"

Cheers

Baron

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